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  • James

    I don’t know that they are. What are the facts and figures?

  • gordon61

    Sadly I think ‘girls’ are more successful at school than ‘boys’ because the education system, well at least in NZ, is more geared towards a girls style of learning than a boys.

  • Paul

    Adolescent boy’s and girl’s maturational development occurs at different rates, both physically and cognitively. Girls have nature’s advantage, perhaps they need the head start to keep the boys at bay later on. However, boys do cognitively catch up and at some point around 18, boy’s and girl’s development is about equal.

    • Summerwave

      There is a study out that found that grades earned in school may be predictably modeled based almost purely on the number of hours of video games children play per week. For students under 10 years of age, in particular, the extremely high levels of video gaming (almost overwhelmingly among male students) really cuts into their grades. After this age, female students start to develop a mild interest in video games, but for those 10 and under, it’s almost all boys. And this alone truly hurts them, academically.

  • DadofTween

    Why girls are more “successful” at school than boys can be summarized by saying that the education system has changed – and not for the better.

    Here are just a few reasons/observations:
    “Success in school ” has, over time, been redefined in ways that favor – i.e. rewards – girl’s ‘typical’ strengths.
    Since the 70s school funding decreases have encouraged men to migrate to more lucrative jobs (outside of teaching) which has, for a few generations, created a gap that has been increasingly filled by women entering the workforce.
    As a result, many of the values of “teaching/learning” have changed to focus largely on kids putting the *effort* and teachers *feeling* appreciated for theirs instead of doing what ever it takes to ensure children *learn* the material and skills.
    Furthermore, these mostly women school teachers have redefined what “education” means by emphasizing *social* values over academic skills.

    They have relaxed the disciplinary and academic expectations placed on kids and reward them for sitting still and being passively quiet (typically girl’s temperament) and punish kids who are loud and active (typically boy’s temperament)
    And worse: we have shifted our focus from results (learning the material/skills & passing the tests that demonstrate it) to effort and social (behaving *properly*, cooperating, playing well with others, etc…) and socially promote kids to the next level even when they do not have the necessary skills and/or knowledge..

    That’s just for starters.. There are so many other social and cultural reasons why girls are more “successful” at school than boys.

    I hope someone take a really good look and not just gloss over the big elephants in the many rooms we need to look at.

  • mrcead

    Learning is a relatively passive activity where the tools to practice are a book and a quiet space in which to read it. Who is more likely to sit down and read a book and learn from it? A testosterone charged boy who desperately wants to fit in socially and rebels against his parents’ wishes or a girl who is naturally passive, less likely to socialise and who listens to the advice of her parents?

    It’s the temperament. Women are taught from a young age not to buck the system and the system rewards compliance. Not difficult to sort out, just observe and school.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510524039 Cynthia Rucker

    I teach high school in rural Ohio. Girls just want it more–all of it–the grades, the scholarships, the better paying jobs. They are more willing to put out the effort to do it. Boys USED to put out effort…20 years ago, when I started my career. Now, boys talk about marrying a woman with a good job–semi-jokingly.

    • Col_Conran

      Totally agree, girls are just going for it & can see the rewards for their efforts. Until boys start to do the same, girls will continue to move ahead. I also still believe more male teachers are needed & something should be done to encourage men back into the teaching profession.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Janos-Kocsis/100001335859700 Janos Kocsis

    they are not more “successful”, they have just more A notes…

  • A man

    I didn’t read the book but after reading a lot of articles and commentaries around the Internet about it I started to see many of the marital relationships around me very differently, this really clarified a lot of things to me, and I’m from countryside Brazil, this thing is happening even here.

    I think one of the issues why men aren’t capable of changing is the upbring. I’m a man, I have a sister and a brother, like many post-feminism families, mine raised the daughter with a very clear objective “you either study to be independent so you can choose the man you want or you’ll have to find a main to sustain you, and he probably won’t respect you, the more sucessful you are, the more you can choose a successful and respectful man”, this was very clear for my parents (both from families with lots of unhappy marriages for women), there was no other way for my sister, she HAD TO go against the fate of the typical housewife, while we, sons, weren’t in the fragile position, “you have to study so you can get a good job for whatever you want”, the concept is that men is in an advantaged position from the begining so he doesn’t have to worry about that, parents worry a lot more about the girl’s future and condition. It’s a double thinking (although this doesn’t explain the cases where married women start their career (or business) later and surpass their husbands, I know some cases).

    Another fact that I noticed during my college times (electric engineer here, we had only 3 women in our class, 2 were amongst the highest grades, the other was dumb as hell) is that the men who got girlfriends or married were more dedicated with the studies, internships, work, etc than those who didn’t. This was very clear by the end of the course, in the beginning all we cared about was getting good grades and good internship oppotunities because this is what people say is important during our college, in the end those who had girlfriends or were married already had more concrete plans for their careers and lives, they didn’t necessarily have better grades, but it was very clear that their professional future was brighter.

    Now I don’t know if this “girlfriend incentive” has to do with the upbring that I talked about above. There might be another thing playing here, which is “what’s the purpose of a heterosexual man after a certain age who can’t get a family to depend on him?” What is his incentive? A woman still can take care of herself, she also has a healthier social life, both with friends and family, it’s also easier for her to raise a family alone, resuming: she can still play most of the “cycle of life” alone. Being alone for a woman living in big cities today will make things harder but not take the purpose of her life, maybe that doesn’t happen with hetero man, in most mammal species the male has to convince the female that he’s worth something, if he can’t do that, that means he failed and now all he can do is to take care of himself waiting for death. Taking care of your body, drinking with buddies, having random sex with prostitutes and spending all of your money to show off isn’t going to incentivate you to work harder and harder, these things are all easy to achieve. We live in a society that values career building, your success in life depends on this discpline that must be present throughout life, maybe the upbring of many families today are preparing women better, or something worse, maybe technology, laws and urban economy made it so that women are concentrating and controling everything that would naturally give a purpose for men to be that disciplined, and there’s no return for that. So what’s left for men is to compete with dildos for women’s sex drive.

    • Col_Conran

      Well Done…That is a very good post & I think you have nailed the issues of today in all countries. Also it was interesting that you commented on your college days & the men who got ahead at college had steady girlfriends & concrete plans. While the ones without girlfriends had no concrete plans.

      “”what’s the purpose of a heterosexual man after a certain age who can’t get a family to depend on him?”

      Women do in fact thrive on their own & live longer, while married women have a shorter life span (apparently). It is the opposite for men who live alone, they don’t thrive & married men live longer.

      I can see why some men are struggling here !! & feel threatened that feminism is making them redundant. I don’t believe this to be the case, but I can see very clearly your points here. Thank you

  • Natalia

    I think boys are more oriented on social interaction with other boys and showing their own significance. It’s not “popular” among boys to study well, while girls are directly oriented on studies and it’s considered to be “popular” among girls to have good marks. Besides, boys have too much testosterone in a certain age, which sometimes makes them inattentive and uncontrallable. :)

  • dicksantorum

    Ok so women have overtaken men. Be it education or everything else according to this extremist misandrist author. So whats the problem now? Women are successful, clearly more skillful and talented as you have enough example s to write a book about. So whats the ranting about? To save boys or men and bring them on par with women? Or is it merely to pat yourself on the back saying you’re superior? If women have become superior then there is no need for Feminism anymore. Is there?

  • Carlie

    For years women were not allowed to go to school, not hold careers of their desire etc. But within the past 60 years, we have seen women going out and getting their education and doing what they want to do because they were allowed the freedom to truly do so. In a way, it gives them empowerment that their mothers, grandmothers, etc, did not have. In a way, its to make up for lost time.

  • annapurna1

    3 reasons ..single.parent.families…girls are expected to raise a whole family all by themselves.. while boys are only expected to go out and nail some chick and then go to hell…as such..the boys are merley responding to sharply reduced expectations of social responsibility.. whereas for girls its the exact opposite…

  • Elizabeth Mathews

    What’s wrong is what’s missing, not what’s present. That’s why it’s so hard to see. In the USA a great many males grow up in single parent families, primarily without dads. It is hard to become a man if you aren’t loved by one….I try to imagine not having had my mom around and available when I was growing up and the mere idea profoundly rocks me.
    I can understand why so many women don’t want their kids’ dads around but it is a self-perpetuating scenario, with one generation handing down their experiences to the next one, and so it goes.

  • Mom of Great Males

    Why are girls more successful in school then boys? Schools
    think boys are a nuisance, a necessary evil so to speak. What are they supposed
    to do with them? So they put the on Ritalin (since ALL males have ADHD). They then
    demean them and tell them that their natural, normal behavior is bad or wrong because
    it just isn’t the way the school thinks they your act. Why, let’s start with
    the teacher theirselves most are women, who have a chip on their shoulders for
    one reason or another and are blaming a man for something (trained that way in
    college). Because they feel that a MAN has ruined their lives, just because he’s
    a man.

    So we have the colleges teaching our teachers to treat MALES
    no matter the age like shit, because somewhere along the line that MALE will
    destroy your life.

    Then they have parents that let the schools do what they
    want (God forbid a parent today would REALLY raise and pay attention to their
    children). (to busy on facebook, and being wonderful to theirselves and friends,
    and patting theirselves on the backs)

    So now we have drugged up boys with not parents paying
    attention or helping them.

    How could anyone MALE or female learn in an environment like
    that.

  • Jean Hogge

    Because when many women go back to school they are non-traditional students, meaning they now have kids, very often crappy jobs, and bills to pay. They are willing to do whatever it takes to make a better life for themselves and their children. School takes on an almost survival like importance for many.